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Bird Feeder and WordPress

Mr Papa
Minted
Posted on Feb 08, '07 at 12:59 am

jaredb,

It appears that you plugin requires mint and wp to be in the same database… thus, it doesnt work for me…

Mr Papa
Minted
Posted on Feb 08, '07 at 12:59 am

darn…hit button too quick…. any chance of a mod to allow them in differnet dbs?

jaredb
Third-Party Pepper Developer
Posted on Feb 08, '07 at 03:16 am

No, the plugin doesn’t require that, since I am running it in separate databases no my site. In fact, I haven’t tested it with mint and wp in the same database at all. Is that perhaps what you’re asking for?

Mr Papa
Minted
Posted on Feb 08, '07 at 09:30 am

interesting because when I install and run it, I get all sorts of errors on my feeds as everything is trying to get pulled from the same database

when I get home tonight, I will try to post some of the error messages…

jaredb
Third-Party Pepper Developer
Posted on Feb 08, '07 at 10:35 am

Hmm, that’s odd.

I haven’t done a whole lot of testing on it under other installation environments, so I would love to see those errors to see if there’s something I can change.

I’ve also only tried it on WordPress 2.1; I’m assuming you’re using the same version? I’ve tried it on two different systems, one with Apache 1.3/PHP4/MySQL4, and one with Apache2/PHP5/MySQL5. In both cases I have a seperate databases for Mint and Wordpress, each using a different MySQL login and password, which are configured to only allow access to their respective databases.

Out of curiosity, do you have any other plugins installed that modify feed content at all?

Ronald Heft
Third-Party Pepper Developer
Posted on Feb 08, '07 at 12:03 pm

jaredb, it’s not your plugin at all. I was holding back on releasing my plugin for the same reason. BirdFeeder just has a problem with WordPress at the moment. Any plugin which modifies feeds screws up the feed. The only way around it for the moment is to disable those plugins.

Mr Papa
Minted
Posted on Feb 08, '07 at 12:07 pm

yes and yes :lol:

it is wp 2.1 and other plugins do modify feed content… which has been the crux of a lot of issues with bird feeder… if I remove those plugins, its a easy hand modifcation to the core feed files (hence the whole reason for your plugin to not modify core files)… but those mods seem to fail with any mod to the feed content…

others have experienced similar issues that wp feeds with any mods just dont work with bird feeder (http://www.haveamint.com/forum/pepper_ … der_plugin)

so, this sounds consistent… again, will populate the errors here when I get home this evening… or maybe at lunch time

Shaun Inman
Mint/Pepper Developer
Posted on Feb 08, '07 at 12:10 pm

Ronald, let’s be fair, Bird Feeder doesn’t have a problem with Wordpress—there is a conflict with the Wordpress plugins you are using. I missed the post you made listing these plugins (found them with a search just now). I will take a look at them this afternoon.

Mr Papa
Minted
Posted on Feb 08, '07 at 12:12 pm

okay, so I just did it now…

WordPress database error: [Table ‘xxxxxxx-mint.wp_posts’ doesn’t exist] SELECT SQL_CALC_FOUND_ROWS wp_posts.* FROM wp_posts WHERE 1=1 AND (post_type = ‘post’ AND (post_status = ‘publish’ OR post_status = ‘private’)) ORDER BY post_date DESC LIMIT 0, 30

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at xxxxxx/wp-includes/wp-db.php:121) in xxxxxx/wp-rss2.php on line 8 klasen.us The Chronicles of the Klasen Family… Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:37:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 en

you can ignore the xxxx as I hid that to protect th innocent…

its trying to pull the wp-posts stuff out of the mint db instead of the wp database…

jaredb
Third-Party Pepper Developer
Posted on Feb 09, '07 at 02:09 am

Mr Papa: I just posted a new version of that plugin; one that hopefully resolves the database related issues.

As for the interaction with other feed-modifying plugins, I still haven’t tried that out, since I don’t use any of those. I would be curious how the new version I just released works for you though, if you’re still interested in trying it.

Thanks!

This worked great for me. I am using it on a sub domain while Mint was installed on my regular domain. So, I was able to use the plug in unedited, made a feeder folder on the sub-domain, with a index.php file that pointed to the regular domain’s installation of Mint.

Thank you very much, this works great.

Muskie
Minted
Posted on Feb 10, '07 at 12:49 pm

And if Mint and Wordpress are in the same directory the plugin does not work? Also if you already modified the feed files you have to return them to their original state?

I got a lot of catching up to do on other more important things, but one reason I upgraded was Bird Feeder sounded cool.

jaredb
Third-Party Pepper Developer
Posted on Feb 11, '07 at 02:20 am

Muskie,

Should work fine with Mint in the same dir as the WordPress files; that’s how I’m using it.

Yes, you should roll back any changes you made to the original WordPress files, since those changes shouldn’t be necessary anymore.

Mr Papa
Minted
Posted on Feb 11, '07 at 09:30 am

Works great for me… and my feed files have some hand mods in them…

my installation of wordpress and mint are on different databases and subdomains, and everything seems to be working fine.

MacManX
Minted
Posted on Feb 19, '07 at 03:38 am

Will an official and concise guide to adding Bird Feeder to WordPress be made available soon? I would love to use the recently released Bird Feeder WordPress plugin, but it requires WordPress 2.1, and I’m stuck in the 2.0.x branch for the time being due to certain compatibility issues.

There seems to be plenty of posts scattered about which give suggestions of how to add Bird Feeder to WordPress, but they all seem to be going back and forth about what works and what doesn’t and eventually end with the Bird Feeder WordPress plugin or a “download these changed files” solution which is also for WordPress 2.1 only.

A concise Bird Feeder setup guide for WordPress, similar to the “Configuring Mint for WordPress” thread, would be appreciated. Thank you!

jaredb
Third-Party Pepper Developer
Posted on Feb 19, '07 at 07:06 pm

MacMan - I should point out that I don’t know for sure that the plugin doesn’t work with 2.0x, I just specified 2.1 since I don’t want to go through and test (and support) prior versions. I didn’t check to see whether the plugin hooks that my plugin uses existed prior to 2.1 (because there were a lot of new ones in that release), but if they did, then it might work.

MacManX
Minted
Posted on Feb 19, '07 at 07:33 pm

Thanks, jaredb. Had this of been a few years ago, I probably would have tried it “just to see what it does”. Since you’re plugin isn’t confirmed compatible with WordPress 2.0.x, I’d rather apply the changes manually, but it’s hard to know how to do that correctly with all these different suggestions scattered about, which is why we need a simple and concise “How to” guide for Bird Feeder and WordPress.

shokk
Third-Party Pepper Developer
Posted on Feb 22, '07 at 05:15 pm

Jared, This doesn’t seem to be doing anything for my feed at shokk.com/blog/feed Note that my WP 2.2-bleeding blog is not at the root of my site, but under that blog directory.

Is the /feeder directory relative to the root of the server, the root of the WP blog, or the root of the site? Should anything be in that dir? It’s pretty empty right now.

I am on Mint 2.02

shokk
Third-Party Pepper Developer
Posted on Feb 22, '07 at 05:31 pm

Dunno how I missed it in the original version, but I just grabbed the 202 version and it had all the instructions I needed for the /feeder dir. Still, the feed isn’t being altered in any way.

MacManX
Minted
Posted on Feb 23, '07 at 02:42 am

Shaun, thanks for adding more details to the ReadMe in Bird Feeder v2.02, and thanks for pointing it out, Shokk!

shokk
Third-Party Pepper Developer
Posted on Feb 23, '07 at 11:49 am

Yeah, I’m seeing the altered feed now. Not sure what I restarted to get it working, but it’s tracking now. A very welcome addition.

Would be nice to see the complete lines like “Bloglines/3.1 (http://www.bloglines.com; 21 subscribers)” somewhere and an aggregation of those rather than just in the Agents list. Maybe we need a Feeds tab in User Agents.

Ronald Heft
Third-Party Pepper Developer
Posted on Feb 23, '07 at 01:32 pm

User Agents does have a feeds tab (called “Readers”). You just have to turn it on in the prefs.

shokk
Third-Party Pepper Developer
Posted on Feb 24, '07 at 01:02 am

All I have there is ” * Browsers * Platform * Screen * Flash ” and I do have it turned on in the User Agent 007 Pepper 2.0 preferences: * Show feed reader usage collected by the Bird Feeder Pepper

No Readers tab shows.

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